Savant: | Hi Jeffrey, first I’d like to thank you for taking the time to chat
with me. As with most young performers they usually start off acting
’just for fun’. Then some of them come to a realization that acting is
what they want to do as a career. In your case you were acting before
you turned 10, and received an AFI (Australian Film Institute) award at 16. Although your love for
acting was apparent at a young age, can you remember when you realized
that acting was something you wanted to choose as a career choice?
Also, did that choice affect any secondary career goals you may have
had? |
Jeffrey: | I knew that I wanted to act from about three! I was always keen to
perform in front of friends or my parents… I used to do a lot of
impersonations, comical voices, memorise whole cartoons or films; I
used to amuse myself a fair bit this way - as little kids usually do.
It wasn’t until I was about 7 when I started working as an actor, that
I began to think seriously about what I was doing. It changed from
being a hobby to a profession I think when I was 10, and I was working
on three or four different television series a year. As far as missing
out on “stuff” because of my acting, apart from playing cricket for
Australia and being the youngest golfer to turn pro, not much. I’ve
have been stupidly fortunate thus far. |
Savant: | We all know that acting is a serious business, but there are times
when things can just get crazy, especially working with other kids.
Are there any particular moments, that you would you like to share,
where you look back and think to yourself “…that was so funny!”? |
Jeffrey: | On “Thunderstone”, all the kids were very professional and fully
prepared for all their scenes on any given day. However… the director
and crew alike would fear the day when all of us would be in the same
scene. We went from the most professional outfit around, to a bunch of
madhouse escapees! One time when we were about to shoot a scene, the
other kids “peer-pressured” me in to fitting as many lollies in my
mouth at one time as I possibly could. (Very mature, I know) Anyway, I
stood up to the challenge, stuffing 13 assorted lollies, some of which
were quite big I’ll have you know, into my gob in one go. I wanted to
join in with the other guys who were laughing at me, but my mouth was
so full, I could barely chew, and there was no chance of me making a
legible sound. That’s when the director shouted, “Alright, let’s have a
rehearsal, and action!” I had the first line in the scene, all eyes
were on me… need I continue? |
Savant: | Many young actors who have “grown up” while acting, often tell the
story of ’a childhood lost’ in the midst of auditions, rehearsals,
productions and the hectic schedule that goes with performing. Turning
19 this year, have you had a chance to look back on your childhood and
reflect on how acting has played a ’role’ in your life? |
Jeffrey: | I often get asked this by kids my own age, I feel it’s almost
because they can’t believe that it is all just “good fun” and
“glamour”. They’re right about the glamour, to an extent. It’s very
different making a television show or film in Australia than what it
is in Hollywood. Having said that, I would be lying if I didn’t say
that even on the most difficult, dialogue filled, freezing cold, 14
hour days… I still love every minute of it. There is nothing that
defines who I am as a person more, than what I have experienced on a
film set. The truth is, my childhood, which was predominately spent on
set, could not have been more fun in any aspect. Fantastic people, get
to travel the world and act in shows that have high production values,
that win awards and are enjoyed by kids from more parts of the globe
than I knew existed. But if you ask me what I would be like today, had
I grown up having had a normal childhood, I couldn’t tell you. |
Savant: | From its birth with Konstantin S. Stanislavsky and subsequent
transformation by Lee Strasberg, “method acting” is known as one of
acting’s mainstays. Although no two acting techniques are identical,
do you have a particular technique that forms the basis for your
skills? Also, what do you do to help you prepare for a given role? |
Jeffrey: | One of the hardest things about series television is how much we
jump out of order when we film. On any given day, we could do a scene
from the first episode and the last episode back to back. This means
that you have to constantly know what stage your character is at in the
story. I have a pretty good memory and can recall pretty much any line
of dialogue I’ve ever said, providing it is put in context. I rely
heavily on knowing the story. This is as much of a technique as I use.
Generally when you’re a kid playing a kid, method acting as such can’t
really apply. On the other hand, if the kid you’re portraying is a
science wiz or a delinquent or a guy who knows a lot about cars than it
would help you to play this character if you learnt about those
particular things. I’m inclined to do a little studying before we start
rolling the cameras, but as the Coen Brothers say, “Research is for
pussy’s” ;) |
Savant: | As we can expect, acting is far from an exact science. Although one
can do their best, I’m sure one could always think “I wonder if I
could do that better?” However, occasionally there are moments when
you hit the ’sweet spot’. Those occasions when you finish a scene, the
director yells “cut” and you get this overwhelming feeling that the
scene was an absolute ’pearl’. They don’t happen often, but when they
do, you never forget them. Do you have any memorable scenes that you
remember in this way? Also, was there ever one scene that you remember
that was really difficult for you to do? |
Jeffrey: | Call me a visionary, but there was one scene in The Wayne Manifesto that was a dream
sequence where I had to play a dictator. It went only for about 30
seconds, but when I read it, I knew it would be ripper (Aussie slang
for good). We filmed the scene a couple of weeks later. When the
director called “Cut”, the crew gave me a round of applause and I felt
as though I had nailed it. Incidentally, I won an AFI award for my
performance in that series and the clip they screened as I was being
presented with the award, was that very sequence. There have been a few
difficult ones, but usually by the time we’re ready to roll, I’ve got a
fair idea of what I’m doing. |
Savant: | Many actors will attest that they refuse to watch their own
performances. Do you watch your own performances? If you do, are you
“your own worst critic” as the saying goes? If not, do you find that
it makes you more sensitive to criticism? |
Jeffrey: | I don’t usually watch the shows on tele. The cast get sent through
tapes of the episodes which I watch with my younger brother, to see if
he approves. I have a pretty subjective view on my performance from
scene to scene. I don’t say it out loud, but I know when I’ve done a
good job or a bad job. Some of the stuff I watch from when I was
younger is very average, but you get away with that when you’re
little. |
Savant: | In the entertainment industry, there is no denying the global ’lure’
of Hollywood, California to someone in the business. Would you
consider a move to Hollywood if the opportunites presented themselves,
or are you content to build your career at home in Australia? |
Jeffrey: | I love Australia. More specifically, I wouldn’t live anywhere apart
from Melbourne! I would certainly work interstate or overseas which I
have on a regular bases in the past. I’m not driven to go to Hollywood
but if Lucas or Spielberg put the big call through, I dare say I would
be over there before they’re off the phone. Though a lot of those
directors are coming to Australia at the moment because of how strong
the U.S. dollar is against ours. Maybe the plan is to move Hollywood
to Sydney’s north shore. Who knows? |
Savant: | I’ve read that you have recently begun working as an intern producer
at JMS productions. As such,
it’s obvious that you have an interest in working ’both sides’ of the
camera. When did you first find yourself wanting to explore beyond
acting? Also, there is no disputing that Jonathan M. Shiff is a great
talent and an excellent producer. How has your experience as an intern
been so far? |
Jeffrey: | Working on this side of the business is great. JMS is the biggest
individual producer of children’s drama in the world. It’s a good thing
to have someone of his calibre take you under his wing and teach you
the tricks of the trade. I would eventually like to direct, as I feel I
would miss being on set too much if I was a producer. But before I can
do that, I have to understand how and why the wheel turns. I made a
short film in ’98 that pretty much sealed the deal for me that I would
have to give directing a go. It had a really good cast and the crew
from “Ocean Girl” and “Thunderstone” helped me make it. Not a bad team
to have behind your first dig at directing. I would hopefully like to
make my own feature films in the not to distant future. |
Savant: | Although most are familiar with your television and/or movie acting
work, have you done any theater or live performance acting at all? |
Jeffrey: | No. I find that what “I” love most about acting, is the way art
meets science in the medium of film of television. I became interested
in the behind the scenes side of the biz because I knew that there was
a lot more to this industry than just acting. Stage is a very self
indulgent thing for an actor to engage in. I don’t think I have the
right frame of mind for it. |
Savant: | Looking over your filmography, 4 of the 6 TV series you have appeared
in have had a ’science-fiction’ component, and/or are set in the
future. Do you have a preference for any particular genre when acting,
or are you willing to take whatever comes your way? |
Jeffrey: | I usually read each story on its merits. The only job that I would
say no to before I’ve even read anything is “on-going series
television”. Daytime soapies, you know the ones… it ain’t my thing. I
like series that are contained. We did four series of “Ocean Girl”
with a different story-agenda to each. Thunderstone was the same. As
far as sci-fi goes, the main reason I’m drawn to doing these kinds of
shows is that they’re exciting and crammed with adventure. If I’m
offered a part in a television show that doesn’t have an “edge” to it,
I will most likely hold out for another Ocean Girl to come along. |
Savant: | In the series “Ocean Girl” they dealt with many environmental issues
that are often overlooked in “adult” TV series, let alone dealt with
in a youth TV series. Has the attention to environmental issues given
you a greater appreciation for the environment? |
Jeffrey: | It’s certainly made me more aware. It’s pretty hard to film in Port
Douglas and the Great Barrier Reef and not want become more involved
in its preservation. Jonathan Shiff is very intent on making kids
understand how important the co-existence between animals, the
environment and humans is. That’s why all his baddies want to destroy
it and the hero kids have to save the world. Lucky we always win,
really. |
Savant: | In watching Ocean Girl, we see a young “Brett Bates” grow from a
young boy to a young man on screen. Overall you spent four years
working on the series, which is a pretty good run. Were you at all
surprised at the longevity of the series? Also, do you think the
series could have been extended to a fifth season, or do you think
that would have been stretching it? |
Jeffrey: | Um… I’m pretty happy where it ended. Would I like to still be making
it now, on the sandy beaches of Far North Queensland’s Great Barrier
Reef? Absolutely. Ocean Girl, with 4 series, was more than any one
show that I had done before. I don’t know, I think people still liked
it when the last season finished on air, which is better that everyone
being sick of it. I was glad for it to go four season’s, but no, I
wouldn’t have predicted it. |
Savant: | In an interview with Marzena Godecki, following her four years
working on Ocean Girl, she stated “I’m too old to be young anymore but
not mature enough to take adult roles.” As one can expect no matter
how much experience you have, if you can’t ’look’ the part, you won’t
get the part. Although experience is certainly a factor, in your case
with a smaller stature and a youthful appearance you have been able to
continue doing “younger” roles for a longer period of time. While some
people may not like having a smaller stature, have you found that it
has given you an advantage in this regard? Also, have you considered
whether you are still willing to do these “younger” parts, or have you
started to look into more “adult” roles? |
Jeffrey: | I’m happy not worrying about it. Right now I’m helping Jonathan
Shiff produce his new series which will start production in October. I
will stick right through that and I’m sure if I ask often enough he
will eventually let me direct an episode or two in his future
productions. As you said, because acting can depend on a look so much,
I’ve found that there is no point worrying about it. I have been
fortunate enough to have been solidly working for almost 12 years, I’m
not going to start asking questions. Talk to me when I’m unemployed
and you may get a different response but at the moment, I’m sitting
easy. |
Savant: | In your work on Thunderstone, you and the cast have the opportunity
to work with many varieties of animals. In the first series you did
one sequence with a Bengal tiger, and other sequences include the cast
with Rhinos, Giraffes, Eland and many other animals. Was Thunderstone
your first experience working with exotic animals on the set? Also,
what kind of demands does working with animals put on those involved? |
Jeffrey: | The only bad thing to come out of working with all the animals
listed above is that I became a little blase about your domesticated
dog and cat. My kitty just didn’t stand up against a tiger or lion. I
love the exotic animals and I love the excitement of filming with them
– they could do anything (and often do). I hadn’t really worked with
animals like I did on Thunderstone which made it an exciting and cool
element. |
Savant: | In looking at Thunderstone, I noticed that some of the same directors
who worked on the Ocean Girl series are directing in this series. Has
your familiarity helped to make your acting job any easier? |
Jeffrey: | I’ve spent more time with those directors than I probably have with
my parents. Colin and Mark are wonderful people and very skilled at
their craft. I always felt comfortable with them. I think there is a
fair bit of mutual respect. I’ve done about 75 episodes of television
with Mark DeFriest alone and about 30 with Colin Budds. |
Savant: | Having just wrapped up filming the third series of Thunderstone, do
you know if they are planning for a forth? |
Jeffrey: | The third series was the final. This was established very early on
in the piece. Jonathan has a host of new children and adult drama that
he is developing. |
Savant: | Speaking of your past on Ocean Girl and Thunderstone, I’ve noticed
that there seems to be a ‘circle’ of actors/actresses that seem to work
on many of the projects in Australia. When I was looking over the cast
lists for many of the cast from the Ocean Girl series, I often found
they had been in other shows with one another. Some quick examples: You
working with Lauren Hewett and Kerry Armstrong on Halfway Across the
Galaxy (I think David Hoflin made appearances on there too if I’m not
mistaken); You & Joelene Crnogorac in Round The Twist; Sudi de Winter, Nicholas Bell &
Joelene Crnogorac in RAW FM. Do you find that the acting community in
Australia is so close knit that you will often meet people you have
worked with before? Also, although I’m sure you enjoy working with
everyone, is there a person or persons that you had the most enjoyment
working with? |
Jeffrey: | You’re very much correct. The same faces show up all the time. It
actually seems to be a hard industry to break into in Australia. A lot
of producers use bankable talent to ensure that there show will do
well. It’s the same all over the world - producers cast with the
smallest risk possible. David Hoflin was one of the more fun actors
I’ve ever worked with. There’s only so often you can work with Russel
Crowe and Guy Pearce in one childhood :) |
Savant: | In looking over awards, you have the AFI award you won in 1997 for
your work in The Wayne Manifesto, Ocean Girl received a BAFTA award in
1998, and Thunderstone received a BAFTA award in 1999. Do you consider
yourself fortunate to have worked in such highly regarded series? |
Jeffrey: | Yeah, it’s great. I’ve had a pretty good run of shows. I would have
to say, I probably get more recognised overseas than what I do in
Australia. I went to the U.K. last year on holiday for the first time
in 8 years, and found that Round the Twist and The Wayne Manifesto had
been quite big over there and lots of kids approached me, in numbers
far greater than here in Australia. I like all the shows I’ve worked
on without exception, but I am very close to them by the time we
finish up. It’s hard to hear someone criticise them. |
Savant: | As a popular actor, I’m sure you’ve received many fan letters and
questions over the years. Is there any one particular question (or
questions) that you find people ask you the most? If so, what is the
answer you give them? |
Jeffrey: | The most common question I get asked from kids is, “How do I become
an actor?” My response is the same each time. If you really do enjoy
it, and you have a passion for it, then go for it! Don’t do it in half
measures, join a theatre group, take it up in school, make a video
with your mates, get an agent (they will be more than happy to have
you on their books) and go get ’em. Cliched I know, but 100% true! |
Savant: | Well that wraps it up for me. Again I’d like to thank you Jeffrey for
taking to time to chat. I’m sure I speak for many when I say we wish
you well in your career, and look forward to your future endeavours. |
Jeffrey: | Thank you. |