Posted by Peter 'Rattacresh' Backes on September 08, 1999 at 15:29:32: In Reply to: Re: OG chatrooms posted by Savant on September 08, 1999 at 15:06:02:
: Notice the wording they use? "KEEP HOLD"
: This is what I am talking about. I don't disagree that a person CAN 'keep hold'
: of a channel. There are many ways a person can do this, and it will hold the
: channel for them. It doesn't mean they 'OWN' it though.
: If you register a channel in this fashion you can keep it as long as you use it. I
: don't see that as being even close to ownership.
: They also say "channel takeovers are virtually impossible" but they don't
: say they 'guarantee' you will maintain control. Channel takeovers DO happen,
: but not very often. However, that's beside the point.
: I spoke with ISP system administrators on 4 systems (who collectively have over
: 4 million customers worldwide) and was told that "you can't OWN an IRC channel"
: even though they ALL agreed that you can 'keep hold' of it, it's not the same thing.
: It's not CONTROL that I am debating here, it's OWNERSHIP. If you can show me a copy of
: the 'bill of sale' from any company that shows you are the 'owner' of ANY IRC channel on
: a PUBLIC network and I will promptly retract my remarks.
Hehe. Here it is (if it is up again): eshare.orcanorth.net:6667 This
'IRC network' (only consiting of one machine, but per definition one
machine alone can be a network, too) has exactly what you wanted.
Martin R. owns the #OceanGirl-Channel technically any lawfully, he has
bought the server software and he surely can show you his license and
bill of sale too.
If anyone does a takeover he has the right and the tools to kick him
out, exactly like your example 'house'.
To finally end this discussion (or should I say 'battle of two
wizkids' ;) I'd suggest we compromise: On some
'common' and 'public' servers, you can OWN a channel TECHICALLY in the
same way AS AN INTERNET DOMAIN -- but by don't OWN it LAWFULLY (what
I never intended to mean, anyway, I'm native German and don't know the
exact definition of all English words).
You've just to agree and we're fine :)